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		<title>Journey Through the Bible: The Parable of The Sower</title>
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		<title>The Theology of “Love Wins”: The Gospel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>In the first article of this review, I touched upon the nature of God and His attributes. Rob Bell&#8217;s vision of God&#8217;s attributes, as described in his controversial new book Love Wins, was compared and contrasted with the scriptures. In his writing, Bell seems very comfortable with the Love of God, but shows little interest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>In the first article  of this review, I touched upon the nature of God and His attributes. Rob Bell&#8217;s vision of God&#8217;s attributes, as described in his controversial new book <em>Love Wins</em>, was compared and contrasted with the scriptures. In his writing, Bell seems very  comfortable with the Love of God, but shows little interest in  interacting with attributes of God he is not personally comfortable  with.</p>
<p>The Bible teaches that God manifests all of his attributes all the time.  They exist  in perfect harmony with  one another. There are no  contradictions within the nature of God (e.g. love vs justice).  As I wrote in the previous  article, on this issue Rob Bell does  not rightly divide the Word of  truth.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-794" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" title="Pastor Rob Bell, author of Love Wins" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pastor-Rob-Bell.jpg" alt="Pastor Rob Bell" width="284" height="274" />Error usually enters a church or denomination when the whole counsel of God is not  seriously considered. Often, blinded by pet doctrines or new theological fads, the leadership will pick and choose from the scriptures to feed certain doctrines while ignoring those scriptures which refute or qualify them. In effect, they create a god in their own image; One they can be personally comfortable with.  Before long,  this new theology becomes church doctrine. I believe that this is the case with Rob  Bell. It seems as if Bell wants to scold the God of the universe for  manifesting any attributes not conforming with his personal  theology.</p>
<p>In this article, the second in the series, the version of salvation presented in <em>Love Wins</em> will be contrasted with Biblical salvation.  My contention is that if a person attempts to come to God on  their  own terms, that person will end up eternally separated from God;  God has the  right to set down the terms for a person’s salvation. He has done so  clearly in His word.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start by looking at specific statements from Rob Bell&#8217;s book concerning how a person is saved.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>If the message of Jesus is that God is offering the free gift of eternal life through him &#8211; a gift that we cannot earn by our own efforts, works or good deeds &#8211; and all we have to do is accept and confess and believe, aren’t those verbs? And aren’t verbs actions? Accepting, confessing, believing — those are things we do. Does that mean then, that going to heaven is dependent on something I do? How is any of that Grace? How is that a gift? How is that Good News? Isn’t what Christians have always claimed set their religion apart &#8211; that it wasn’t in the end a religion at all – that you don’t have to do anything because God has already done it through Jesus.” </em>(Love Wins &#8211; 11)</p></blockquote>
<p>It is here that we encounter one of the most serious errors in Rob Bell’s book:  a radically distorted understanding of the Gospel.  For Bell, as stated in this passage and in many other passages throughout  his book, salvation is a universal fact. When Jesus died on the Cross, salvation wasn&#8217;t just available to everyone who believes, but everyone, regardless of whether  they actually believe the Gospel or not, is saved. According to Bell, the &#8220;Good News&#8221; really  isn&#8217;t &#8220;good&#8221; if one has to  place their faith in Jesus to be saved. Bell believes that the mainstream view of salvation is just plain wrong; It is anything <em>but</em> Good News. As far as he&#8217;s concerned, Jesus died and as a result, everyone is saved . Personal Trust in Jesus is not required.</p>
<p>However, according to the Bible, neither Jesus nor his Apostles taught anything like Bell&#8217;s <em>universal salvation</em>. It must be remembered that Jesus of Nazareth presented clear and undeniable credentials to show that he had authority to speak for God the Father on earth. Moreover, he claimed to be God. He backed up  this claim by fulfilling Old Testament prophesy, performing miracles and then rising from the dead.</p>
<p>So then, if we claim to believe the Bible, we must also believe that Jesus has the right<strong> </strong>and the authority to spell out the terms of salvation. The fact that Jesus rose from the dead alone validates everything he taught during his 3 ½ year ministry. I would hope and pray that Rob Bell would not disagree with this as being the foundation for why we as Christians accept the authority of Jesus.</p>
<p>What this all boils down to is this question: “What is the Message of the Gospel?” Rob Bell asks this same question in many different ways throughout the first chapter of his book.  The content of the Gospel involves the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. Consider the following passages:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Thus it is written, that the Christ would </em><em><strong>suffer </strong></em><em>and </em><em><strong>rise again from the dead the third day</strong></em><em>, and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem. </em> – Luke 24:44-48</p>
<p>“<em>Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. </em><sup><em><strong>3</strong></em></sup><em>For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, </em><em><strong>that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day</strong></em><em> according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve </em>– 1 Corinthians  15:1-8</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-799" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" title="Jesus Teaching his Apostles" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Jesus-Teaching-his-Apostles.jpg" alt="Jesus Teaching his Apostles" width="300" height="262" />Thus, the Gospel involves what Jesus did for us, on our behalf. We could not save ourselves. We did nothing to earn God’s sending of his Son. Yet, contrary to many statements that Rob Bell makes throughout the book, Jesus’ death and Resurrection for our salvation does not mean that everyone in the world is automatically saved. A person needs to believe that what Jesus did, He did for him or her individually. Consider the words of Jesus:</p>
<blockquote><p><sup>“</sup><em>As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lift0ed up; </em><sup><em><strong>15</strong></em></sup><em>so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. &#8220;For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. </em><sup><em><strong></strong></em></sup><em>&#8220;For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. &#8220;He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” </em>– John 3:14-18</p></blockquote>
<p>I would suppose that Bell could easily go along with John 3:16,17, because Jesus talks about how God sent him into the world to redeem it and not to judge it. But I wonder what Bell would say concerning verse 18. Would Bell tell Jesus that he was not presenting Nicodemus with Good News because those who do not believe in Him already stand condemned for not believing in Him? Would Bell find fault with Jesus for spelling out the consequences of rejecting his specific gift of salvation? Is Jesus, in verse 18, being too narrow minded and unloving for Rob Bell? Is Rob Bell more loving than the Son of God himself?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?&#8221; Jesus answered and said to them, &#8220;This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.” – John 6:27-29</em></p>
<p><em>“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” – John 6:40</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Based on these passages ALONE, we can get a very clear understanding of what Jesus deemed to be necessary for salvation. Jesus said that personal trust and belief in Him was absolutely necessary for a person to be saved.</p>
<p>Bell would say that there is nothing gracious in God instructing people to believe in Jesus for salvation. Bell would say this is too narrow.  For Bell., God would have been much more loving if, at the moment that Jesus died , He had automatically forgiven everyone and not put a burden on people by declaring, through the preaching of the Apostles, that one must individually believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.  That sounds narrow and not grace filled for Rob Bell.</p>
<p>The Apostles also stated that personal trust in Jesus and what did is necessary for salvation. Peter stated twice that personal trust in Jesus and the turning away from sin are necessary for salvation.</p>
<blockquote><p><sup><strong></strong></sup><em>&#8220;Peter said to them, &#8220;Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit&#8221; &#8211; Acts 2:38</em></p>
<p><em> <sup><strong></strong></sup>&#8220;And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead. <sup><strong></strong></sup>&#8220;Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.&#8221; &#8211; ACTS 10:42-43</em></p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignleft" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 10px 5px 0px;" title="Paul the Apostle" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Paul-the-Apostle.jpg" alt="Paul the Apostle" width="300" height="234" />The Apostle Paul, the Apostle of Grace, also stated many times that while there was nothing that we could have done to motivate God in the sending of his Son for our salvation, there is something that we need to do to receive that salvation personally. That one thing is believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and in what He did in his death and resurrection for our salvation. Consider the following four passages below from God’s Word.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>”……suddenly there came a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison house were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and everyone&#8217;s chains were unfastened. <sup><strong></strong></sup>When the jailer awoke and saw the prison doors opened, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. <sup><strong></strong></sup>But Paul cried out with a loud voice, saying, &#8220;Do not harm yourself, for we are all here!&#8221; <sup><strong></strong></sup>And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas, <sup><strong></strong></sup>and after he brought them out, he said, &#8220;Sirs, what must I do to be saved?&#8221;<sup><strong> </strong></sup>They said, &#8220;Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.&#8221; &#8211; Acts 16:26-31</em></p>
<p><em> <sup><strong>&#8220;</strong></sup>But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,<sup><strong> </strong></sup>even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; <sup><strong></strong></sup>for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, <sup><strong></strong></sup>being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; <sup><strong>25</strong></sup>whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; <sup><strong></strong></sup>for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. <sup><strong></strong></sup>Where then is boasting? It is excluded By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. <sup><strong></strong></sup>For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.&#8221; &#8211; Romans 3:21-24</em></p>
<p><em> <sup><strong>&#8220;</strong></sup>Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, <sup><strong></strong></sup>through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.&#8221; &#8211; Romans 5:1-2</em></p>
<p><em> <sup><strong>&#8220;</strong></sup>For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; <sup><strong></strong></sup>not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.&#8221; -Ephesians 2:8</em></p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-796" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" title="Peter the Apostle" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Peter-the-Apostle.jpg" alt="Peter the Apostle" width="300" height="388" />Now if Peter, Paul and the rest of the Apostles stated that one needs to put his or her personal trust in Jesus for salvation, how can Rob Bell come along and state that the Apostles were not really full of grace, did not understand that salvation is a gift and did not have a correct understanding of what the Good News is? Peter traveled with Jesus during his 3 ½ year ministry. Peter saw Jesus’ mighty miracles and heard his powerful sermons? Peter was an eyewitness of the Resurrected Jesus. Jesus vested Peter with Apostolic authority and power to proclaim the Gospel.</p>
<p>Does Rob Bell know something more than what Peter experienced? Has Rob Bell seen the physically resurrected Jesus like Peter and Paul did, which officially made them Apostles? Does Bell know more about the Grace of God than Peter, Paul and the rest of the Apostles? People’s souls are at stake when they read Rob Bell’s book “Love Wins” and come away with a false sense of security thinking it’s okay if they reject what Jesus did for them on the cross,……because they are already automatically saved by the cross anyway regardless of what they do with The cross. False security is the worse kind of security!</p>
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		<title>The Theology of &#8220;Love Wins&#8221;: The Attributes of God</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>Guest Post by IBD contributor Kyle Larson Let&#8217;s face it, controversy sells. In today&#8217;s media-driven, instant-access society, we are prone to skip the facts and report the controversy. The endgame being, of course, to sell more books, gain more viewers or entice readers to frequent your awesome blog. When we hear about Rob Bell&#8217;s latest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Guest Post by IBD contributor Kyle Larson</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, <em>controversy sells</em>. In today&#8217;s media-driven, instant-access society, we are prone to skip the facts and report the controversy. The endgame being, of course, to sell more books, gain more viewers or entice readers to frequent your awesome blog. When we hear about Rob Bell&#8217;s latest book and the very controversial nature of its content, one wonders if this is what he had in mind. Rather than a treatise on the nature of salvation, one wonders if this a response to the shrinking bottom line. This would explain why someone so well respected as Rob Bell would create a book like <em>Love Wins</em>.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-779" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" title="rob_bell_love_wins-300x300" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/rob_bell_love_wins-300x300.jpg" alt="Love Wins" width="300" height="300" />In this book, Rob Bell lays out his philosophy concerning both the nature of God and the extent of His salvation. When reading it, the first thing that came to mind, at least for me, were the controversies that plagued the early church regarding the nature of Christ. From the beginning of Christianity, the apostles taught that Jesus was both God and Man at the same time. For this reason, their writings in the New Testament speak about both the deity and humanity of Jesus. In the early church, neither aspect of Christ&#8217;s nature was overemphasized or under emphasized at the expense of the other. Yet during the first three centuries, each new heresy regarding the nature of Christ either overemphasized his deity at the expense of his humanity or overemphasized his humanity at the expense of his deity;  Both extremes are simply different forms of the same heresy which denies that Jesus is fully God and fully man.</p>
<p>When reading Rob Bell’s book,<em> Love Wins,</em> one sees the overemphasis of one of God’s attributes at the expense of others. Bell is absolutely correct in emphasizing that God is Love. From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible describes the Christian God as a God of Love.  There are many passages in the New Testament that state that God sent his Son into the world out of  pure and perfect love for humanity.</p>
<p>When we look at the book of Psalms in the Old Testament for example, we see a great emphasis on the love of God. It&#8217;s hard to miss. Yet, the book of Psalms clearly speaks of other attributes of God. The book of Psalms, as well as the rest of Scripture, maintains an emphasis on God as a being with many attributes, each an equal part of the whole.	 If one overemphasizes God’s holiness at the expense of his love or goodness, we come up with an inaccurate picture of who God is. This is true regardless of what attribute of God is being overemphasized.  If one attends a church where the wrath of God is always preached on and the love of God is hardly mentioned, that church has lost balance.  In the same way, if God’s love is overemphasized at the expense of his holiness or wrath, then that church too is off balanced.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-780" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 10px 5px 0px;" title="Rob Bell" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/rob_bell.jpg" alt="Rob Bell" width="284" height="274" />This <em>off balanced</em> understanding of God’s attributes begins in chapter 1 of <em>Love Wins</em>, which is entitled “What About The Flat Tire?” In it, Bell asks a series of questions regarding the nature of God when it comes to the eternal punishment of the unsaved.  Bell asks if God can still be loving if He allows people to be lost in Hell.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Does God punish people for thousands</em><em> of years with infinite eternal torment for things they did in their few finite years of life?” </em></p>
<p>“<em>What kind of faith is that? Or more important, What kind of God is that?”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The ONLY way that we can discover what God is like is by reading what He has revealed about himself in his Word, the Bible. We don’t have to guess what God is like; He has told us.  While there are some specific attributes of God that will be explored in this article, there are some very fundamental basics concerning the attributes of God that need to be made clear at the very beginning.</p>
<p>God has no beginning and end; He is <strong>eternal.</strong> (Exodus 3:14) No other being can say this. God is the creator who created all other things (Genesis 1:1). God is<strong> Omnipotent</strong>. This means that God has all power and is unlimited. (Jeremiah 32:17, Jeremiah 43:13, Jeremiah 49:`19) God is also<strong> Omniscient;</strong> He knows all things. (Job 37:16, Psalms 139:2-4, Matthew 6:8) God is also <strong>Omnipresent; </strong>He is fully present everywhere at the same time all the time. (I Kings 8:27, Psalms 93:3-5, Psalms 139:7-10)</p>
<p>With these  basic attributes of God in place, we can now deal some other specific attributes of God as they relate to Rob Bell’s latest book <em>Love Wins</em>.</p>
<p><strong>GOD IS 		HOLY</strong></p>
<p>God is holy in that He is separate from all creation. The primary reason for this is that God is not a creature. He has no beginning and no end. All <em>creatures</em> have a beginning at some point in time. Not so with God. Being therefore holy, God cannot stand in the presence of evil or sin</p>
<p>Several passages in the Old Testament speak of the <strong>Holiness of God:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Who is like You among the gods, O LORD? Who is like You, majestic in holiness, Awesome in praises, working wonders?”</em> &#8211; Exodus 15:11</p>
<p>“<em>&#8216;For I am the LORD your God Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am holy. And you shall not make yourselves unclean with any of the swarming things that </em><em>swarm on the earth. For I am the LORD who brought you up from the land of Egypt to be your God; thus you shall be holy, for I am holy.&#8217;&#8221;</em> &#8211; Leviticus 11:44-45</p>
<p><em>&#8220;There is no one holy like the LORD. Indeed, there is no one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God”</em> &#8211;  1 Samuel 2:2</p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>GOD IS RIGHTEOUS</strong> <strong>AND JUST</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/12561740.jpg" rel="lightbox[776]"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-782" style="border: 2px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" title="Painting of God from the Sistine Chapel" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/12561740-300x225.jpg" alt="Painting of God from the Sistine Chapel" width="300" height="225" /></a>The Greek word for “righteous” means “to be just”. God, being the God revealed in scripture, cannot be anything other than totally just and righteous. If we believe the scriptures, and Rob Bell claims this, God will forever be righteous and can do nothing wrong; That would be against His nature.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the LORD are true; they are righteous altogether”</em> &#8211;  Psalm 19:9</p>
<p>“<em>Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne; Loving kindness and truth go before You.”</em> &#8211; Psalm 89:14</p></blockquote>
<p>In  the second passage particularly, we see several attributes of God together, all in perfect harmony with each other.</p>
<p>God is absolutely holy and righteous along with being absolutely and perfectly loving. All of God’s attributes are in perfect harmony with each other because of who God is. For Rob Bell to elevate only one attribute of God, his love, while deemphasizing  other attributes of God  he may not be comfortable with  is not accurately handling the <em>word of truth</em>. Only after balancing all of his attributes, each perfectly working together, are we offered an accurate and complete and accurate picture of who God is.</p>
<p><strong>GOD IS MERCIFUL</strong></p>
<p>The Mercy of God is emphasized throughout the Bible:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>The LORD is slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression; but He will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generations.&#8217; </em><sup><em><strong>19</strong></em></sup><em>&#8220;Pardon, I pray, the iniquity of this people according to the greatness of Your lovingkindness, just as You also have forgiven this people, from Egypt even until now.&#8221;</em> &#8211;  Numbers 14:18-19</p>
<p>“<em>O give thanks to the LORD, for He is good; For His loving kindness is everlasting.”</em> &#8211; Chronicles 16:34</p>
<p><sup>“</sup><em>The </em><em>priests stood at their posts, and the Levites also, with the instruments of music to the LORD, which King David had made for giving praise to the LORD&#8211;&#8217;for His loving kindness is everlasting&#8217;&#8221;</em> &#8211; 2 Chronicles 7:6</p></blockquote>
<p>Rob Bell does a good job giving many other passages throughout the book that speak of God’s love and mercy. We have no argument with Rob Bell here.</p>
<h2>THE WRATH 	OF GOD</h2>
<p>Yet the Bible also solemnly speaks about the Wrath of God. Some of these passages include the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>”<em>&#8230; and My anger will be kindled, and I will kill you with the sword, and your wives shall become widows and your children fatherless.”</em> &#8211;  Exodus 22:24</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Now then let Me alone, that My anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them; and I will make of you a great nation.&#8221;</em> &#8211;  Exodus 32:10</p>
<p><em>&#8220;When he fills his belly, God will send His fierce anger on him and will rain it on him while he is eating”</em> &#8211; Job 20:23</p></blockquote>
<p>These are just a few of the many passages that speak of the Wrath of God</p>
<p>God’s mercy and God’s wrath are not contradictions , rather, as Dr. Norman Geisler explains in his Systematic Theology series, <em>God’s Wrath acts upon one person and his mercy on another person</em>. It would be contradictory to say a person is both  a Christian and a non Christian<strong> at the same time </strong>and therefore  also a contradiction for this person to end up both in Heaven and Hell <strong>at the same time.</strong> Rob Bell would be correct if he reached this conclusion, but he never follows his own reasoning to this conclusion. In fact, he peppers the book with statements on how terrible God would be if He sent a person to Hell for rejecting Jesus.</p>
<p>In writing about a situation in which a person hears the Gospel, rejects it and later on that same day dies in a car accident, for God to send that person to Hell, Rob Bell writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>God would, in essence, become a fundamentally different being to them in that moment of death, a different being to them forever. A loving heavenly Father who will go to extraordinary lengths to have a relationship with them would, in the blink of an eye, become a cruel, mean, vicious tormenter who would ensure that they had escape from an endless future of agony. If there was an earthly Father who was like that, we would call the authorities. If there was an actual human dad who was that volatile, we would contact child protection services immediately. If God can switch gears like that, switch entire modes of being that quickly, that raises a thousand questions about whether a being like this could ever be trusted, let alone be good.”</em> (Love Wins, pg 174)</p></blockquote>
<p>This statement reveals a serious misunderstanding of the <em>immutability</em> of God. God is unchanging in his nature and in all of his attributes. He retains all of his attributes at all times. He doesn’t discard one attribute in order to display another of his attributes. Again, all of God’s attributes work together in perfect harmony, but they are also eternally constant and unchanging in nature.</p>
<h2>GOD IS UNCHANGING IN HIS 	NATURE</h2>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind.&#8221;</em> &#8211; 1 Samuel 15:29</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Even they will perish, but You endure; And all of them will wear out like a garment;  Like clothing You will change them and they will be changed. But You are the same,  And Your years will not come to an end.”</em> &#8211; Psalm 102:26-27</p>
<p><em>&#8220;For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.”</em> &#8211; Malachi 3:6</p></blockquote>
<p>Bell 		uses certain words to describe God’s right to exercise his 		attributes of justice and righteousness. Some of these words 		include: “vicious”, “cruel” and “relentless”.  It&#8217;s 		almost as if Bell is saying to God, “<em>You 		can display only your attribute of Love. If you manifest any of 		your other attributes, such as justice, righteousness or Your 		wrath, then you are cruel and mean and vicious.</em>” 		But if that were the case, then is Bell appealing to some greater 		being than the God of the Bible? He must if he is going to use some 		other  standard or a measuring line to judge the God of the Bible. Of course, this 		simply cannot be the case if Rob Bell truly believes there is only 		one eternal being, the God of scripture.</p>
<p>In a related extended passage from the Book, Bell 		writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>&#8230; 		if your God is loving one second and cruel the next, if your God 		will punish people for all eternity for sins committed in a few 		short years, then no amount of clever marketing, or compelling 		language or good music or great coffee will be able to disguise 		that one true, glaring, unacceptable, awful reality.”</em> (Love Wins 175)</p>
<p>Bell also says that this kind of God has something 		“wrong” with Him. (Love Wins 175)</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, 		what is Bell’s standard of measurement? Does he know a God 		greater than  the God of the Bible to whose greater moral standard 		he can appeal? Bell, who cannot stand a God of judgment, ends up 		judging God himself. Words such as “cruel”, “mean”, 		“vicious” and “wrong” are all words that imply a judgment. The two previous extended quotations from <em>Love 		Wins </em>remind 		us of the long series of questions that God asked of Job, who was 		questioning the way that God does things.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Then 		the LORD said to Job, &#8216;Will the faultfinder contend with the 		Almighty? Let him who reproves God answer it.&#8217; Then Job answered 		the LORD and said, </em><sup><em>&#8216;</em></sup><em>Behold, 		I am insignificant; what can I reply to You? I lay my hand on my 		mouth. Once I have spoken, and I</em><em> will not answer; Even twice, and I will add nothing more.&#8217; </em></p>
<p><em>Then 		the LORD answered Job out of the storm and said,</em><sup><em> &#8216;</em></sup><em>Now 		gird up your loins like a man; I will ask you, and you instruct Me. 		Will you really annul My judgment? Will you condemn Me that you may 		be justified? Or do you have an arm like God, And can you </em><em>thunder 		with a voice like His?&#8217;”</em> &#8211; Job 40:1-3,6-9</p></blockquote>
<p>Is Rob Bell a fault finder of God? Is Rob Bell reproving God for being who is He in his very essence, nature and attributes? Is Rob Bell trying to instruct the eternal God who has all power, knows all things and is everywhere present at the same time? Is Rob Bell trying to annul the righteous judgments of God? Is Rob Bell condemning God so that he can be justified in his understanding of who God is?  These are serious questions that Rob Bell needs to answer</p>
<h2>GOD IS 		THE CREATOR</h2>
<p>“<em>Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? On what were its bases sunk or who laid its cornerstone … “</em> &#8211;  Job 38:4-6</p>
<h2>GOD IS 		ALL POWERFUL (OMNIPOTENT)</h2>
<p><em>&#8220;Have you entered into the springs of the sea Or walked in the recesses of the deep? Have the gates of death been revealed to you, or have you seen the gates of deep darkness? Have you understood the expanse of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this. </em></p>
<p><em>Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, can you bind the chains of the Pleiades, or loose the cords of Orion? Can you lead forth a constellation in its season and guide the Bear with her satellites? Do you know the </em><sup><em>(</em></sup><em>ordinances of the heavens, Or fix their rule over the earth?”</em> &#8211; Job 38:16-18,22</p>
<p>As we conclude this first article, we can only hope that Bell’s response will be the same as that of Job</p>
<blockquote><p><sup>“</sup><em>Then 				Job answered the LORD and said, </em><sup><em>&#8216;</em></sup><em>I 				know that You can do all things,  And that no purpose of Yours 				can be thwarted. Who is this that hides counsel without 				knowledge? Therefore I have declared that which I did not 				understand, things too wonderful for me, which I did not know. 				Hear, now, and I will speak; I will ask You, and You instruct me. 				I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear; But now my eye 				sees You; Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes.&#8217;&#8221;</em> &#8211; Job 42:1-6</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Jesus the Jew?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Ginorio</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>The Institute regularly received correspondence from laypeople and apologists worldwide. Most of the time, we either answer the query ourselves or defer the person to a ministry that specializes in the field (anthropology, linguistics, ancient cultures, etc). As always, our goal is to best equip the saints to defend the Christian faith.</p>
<p><a href="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/scroll.jpg" rel="lightbox[715]"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-717" style="border: 1px solid #aaaaaa; margin: 10px 10px 10px 10px; padding: 2px;" title="Ancient scroll containing book of Isiah" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/scroll-300x224.jpg" alt="Ancient scroll containing book of Isiah" width="300" height="224" /></a>On one such occasion not too long ago, we received an email from someone seeking an answer to Jewish apologists. Apparently, they were questioning the genealogy of Jesus. Was Jesus really from the right tribe, family and lineage to qualify as the Messiah? The pedigree of Christ was put on the table.</p>
<p>The following arguments were given to the Christian to show that Jesus&#8217; genealogy did not qualify him as the Messiah:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The Messiah must be from the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10). Under Jewish law, tribal affiliation is conferred through the birth father only (Numbers 1:18-44,34:14,Leviticus 24:10) (Criterion for being the Messiah is not met &#8211; in Christianity, Jesus has no human father &#8211; therefore he had no tribal affiliation. Jesus not being from the tribe of Judah is eliminated from messianic consideration).&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The Messiah must be from the House of David (Jeremiah 33:17-20,1 Chronicles 17:11-12). This affiliation is conferred through the father and Matthew 1 and Luke 3 attempt to trace Jesus&#8217; lineage through Joseph back to King David. However, according to the Gospels &#8220;the holy spirit&#8221; not Joseph was Jesus&#8217; father (Matthew 1:18). Tribal and family affiliations of this type can not be claimed by adoption (Numbers 1:18-44,34:14; Leviticus 24:10) and at any rate there is no indication in the Christian scriptures that Joseph ever adopted Jesus under Jewish law (Criterion not met &#8211; Jesus eliminated from messianic consideration).&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The Messiah must be from the seed of Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-16,Psalms 89:29-38,1 Chronicles 17:11-14,22:9-10,28:6-7). Matthew indeed claims that Jesus was descended through Solomon. However, Luke claimed that Jesus descended through Nathan, David&#8217;s other son (who was not king). This eliminates Jesus&#8217; genealogy through Luke. The problem with the claim that Luke&#8217;s genealogy is actually that of Mary is that Mary is not mentioned in Luke&#8217;s genealogy. Even if it was the genealogy of Mary this is meaningless as Jewish law only recognizes tribal affiliation through the father (Numbers 1:18).&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, as a traditional Christian, I completely disagree with the Jewish assessment of Jesus&#8217; lineage. Here&#8217;s my responding email:</p>
<p>So let me get this straight. The argument goes:</p>
<p>1) In order to fulfill the messianic prophecy of being from the     tribe of Judah, Joseph would have to have been Jesus&#8217; natural father     since tribal affiliation is passed through the father&#8217;s lineage.</p>
<p>2) In order to fulfill the messianic prophecy of being from the     &#8220;House of David&#8221;, Joseph would have to have been Jesus&#8217; natural     father since tribal affiliation is passed down from the father and     cannot be claimed through adoption.</p>
<p>3)  In order to fulfill the messianic prophecy of being from the     &#8220;seed of&#8221; Solomon, Joseph would have to have been Jesus&#8217; natural     father since tribal affiliation is only passed through the father&#8217;s     lineage.</p>
<p><a href="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/o_l_passion.jpg" rel="lightbox[715]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-718" style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 2px;" title="Byzantine Mary and Baby Jesus" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/o_l_passion.jpg" alt="Byzantine Mary and Baby Jesus" width="310" height="352" /></a>Does the unspoken assumption here seem unusual? If Jesus is the     supernaturally conceived Son of God, rather than the natural son of Joseph, then He isn&#8217;t qualified to be the Messiah. Really? So if God Himself     comes to earth, He is unqualified to be their savior? I wonder if     they realize how nonsensical and illogical that sounds?</p>
<p>Setting that aside, let&#8217;s continue with the argument. If Jesus was not Joseph&#8217;s natural son, but only the son of Mary, one must wonder: did Jesus have any Jewish affiliation at all? If all affiliation were only passed down from the father&#8217;s side then Jesus, technically, wasn&#8217;t even a Jew; He had no tribe, no family and no real lineage (remember, we&#8217;re setting aside the fact that he&#8217;s the son of God). So, being born     through Mary into the tribe of Judah from the line of King David is irrelevant; Jesus is a nobody from nowhere.</p>
<p>This kind of reasoning, obviously, fails on two levels:</p>
<p>On the first level, without an early father, Jesus&#8217; lineage would instead have come from his mother, Mary. Would anyone, even in the first century, have been so foolish as to deny that Jesus had a family line? So, using Luke&#8217;s genealogy, we can place Jesus both in the tribe of Judah and from the line of David; He was qualified to be the Messiah.</p>
<p>On a second level, how can you argue: If Jesus is truly the son of God, then He can&#8217;t be the Messiah? That is pure nonsense. Is God unable to bring about the Messiah, even His own Son, without the aid of a natural man? I guess &#8230; if you choose to believe that first century Jewish genealogical traditions trump God&#8217;s will.</p>
<p>Of course, this kind of thinking is nothing new. If you remember, in like manner     the Jews of Jesus&#8217; day accused Him of being a sinner for healing on the Sabbath.     When Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, they plotted to kill them     both. It seems that even in Jesus&#8217; day, people could be blind, ignoring the blatant miracles of God     and instead embracing the traditions of men?</p>
<p>Now, for arguments sake, let&#8217;s even give them this part of the argument. Let&#8217;s suppose that in the first century lineage was only passed through the natural father&#8217;s line. Jesus Himself offered a great refutation of this argument :</p>
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<div id="attachment_719" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 241px"><a href="http://www.bible-history.com/archaeology/greece/2-antiochus-iv-bust-bb.html"><img class="size-full wp-image-719" style="border: 1px solid #aaaaaa; margin: 10px 0px 10px 10px; padding: 2px;" title="Antiochus IV Epiphanes Bust" src="../wp-content/uploads/2010/09/2-antiochus-iv-bust-bb.jpg" alt="Antiochus IV Epiphanes" width="231" height="298" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Courtesy of http://www.bible-history.com</p></div>
<p><em>&#8220;And say not to yourselves, We have Abraham for our         father; because I say to you that God is able from these stones         to make children for Abraham.&#8221;</em> &#8211; Mt 3:9</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah &#8230; on every level these arguments against Jesus&#8217; qualifications to be the Messiah fail and fail badly. The assumptions behind them fail, the premise fails and the conclusion fails.</p>
<p>The last argument fares no better. Although the scripture mentioned, II Samuel and Psalms do speak of a &#8220;son of David&#8221; they are referring to Solomon. There are allusions to Jesus, but allusions to future events and people aren&#8217;t unheard of in the scripture.  Both Antiochus Epiphanes and the king of Babylon are compared to the Satan / the Antichrist in the form of allusions. Does this mean that Antiochus Epiphanes was the Antichrist? Nope.</p>
<p>The point here is that although the texts of the Psalm and II Samuel can&#8217;t all possibly be applied to Solomon (as a son of David) they did in fact allude to another &#8220;son of David&#8221;: Jesus of Nazareth. The Christ.</p>
<p>So let me summarize:</p>
<p>1) Jesus was from the tribe of Judah through Mary.</p>
<p>2) Jesus was from the tribe of David through Mary.</p>
<p>3) The verses mentioned here are about Solomon. They do allude to     the Messiah who was indeed from the line of David as predicted.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Ginorio</dc:creator>
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		<title>New Q&amp;A: Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus</title>
		<link>http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/2010/03/new-qa-evidence-for-the-ressurection-of-jesus/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Ginorio</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Dr. Fernandes discusses some of the compelling reasons for believing the Resurrection of Jesus was an actual, historical event. Quoting such Christian researcher Gary Habermas and apologist William Lane Craig, Dr. Fernandes highlights his case using the changed lives of the Apostles and early church leaders.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>In this latest Q&amp;A video, Dr. Fernandes looks at the divine and human nature of Jesus. Could Jesus sin? What if He had sinned?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>&#8220;With God all things are possible.&#8221; For some Christians this truism is a mantra, spoken whenever obstacles or trials stand in their way. God will overcome! Seriously, is there really anything God can&#8217;t do? It seems like common sense, doesn&#8217;t it? God is capable of doing anything. However, a young YouTube apologist called MigKillerTwo, in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;With God all things are possible.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p>For some Christians this <em>truism</em> is a mantra, spoken whenever obstacles or trials stand in their way. God will overcome! Seriously, is there really anything God <em>can&#8217;t </em>do? It seems like common sense, doesn&#8217;t it? God is capable of doing anything.</p>
<p>However, a young YouTube apologist called <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/migkillertwo">MigKillerTwo</a>, in his second video on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7hpE4fOJ2k&amp;feature=related">defending Substance Dualism</a>, had something quite interesting to say on the subject. When confronting this question, his answer was both enlightening and honest. Before I get to his answer, however, there are a few scripture verses to consider.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><a href="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/peters-confession.jpg" rel="lightbox[523]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-527" style="border: 2px solid black; margin: 10px;" title="Peter's confession" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/peters-confession.jpg" alt="" width="164" height="200" /></a>When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, &#8220;Who then can be saved?&#8221; Jesus looked at them and said, &#8220;With man this is impossible, but <strong>with God all things are possible</strong>.&#8221; </em>(<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19:25-27&amp;version=NIV">Matt 19:25-26</a>)</p>
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<blockquote><p><em>Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. For <strong>nothing is impossible with God</strong>. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1:36-37&amp;version=NIV">Luke 1:36-37</a>)<br /></em></p>
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<p>These verses are standard faire for a Christian layman. Imagine my surprise when this verse was brought into the conversation.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which <strong>it is impossible for God to lie</strong>, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6:17-18&amp;version=NIV">Heb 6:17-18</a>)</em></p>
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<p>Apparently, atleast in one area, something is <em>impossible </em>for God<em>.</em> God cannot lie. From here, ones mind begins to ponder: <em>What else is it impossible for God?</em> Why are they impossible? Does this mean there&#8217;s a contradiction in the Bible?</p>
<p>This is where MigKillerTwo stepped in and gave a well reasoned answer. First, he admitted that there are things God cannot do, like: lie, sin or die. However, in his reading of the scripture, that did not present a contradiction. The statement, &#8220;<em>nothing is impossible&#8221;</em> merely means: God cannot fail to accomplish all that He sets out to do. Nothing is withheld from Him (God is all powerful).</p>
<p>MigKillerTwo didn&#8217;t stop there. He also explained why certain things were impossible for God. These fall into two categories:</p>
<p>1) Behavior against His own nature.</p>
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<p><em>&#8220;God is Love&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John+4:8&amp;version=NIV">I John 4:8b</a>)</em></p>
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<p><em>&#8220;God is just&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians+1:6&amp;version=NIV">II Thess 1:8</a>)</em></p>
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<p>2) Behavior that is impossible by definition (logical contradictions).</p>
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<li>God can&#8217;t create a square circle.</li>
<li>God can&#8217;t make something exist and not exist at the same time in the same sense.</li>
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<p><a href="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/GodInTheClouds.gif" rel="lightbox[523]"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-530" style="border: 3px solid black; margin: 10px;" title="God in the clouds" src="http://instituteofbiblicaldefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/GodInTheClouds-300x240.gif" alt="" width="248" height="207" /></a>So when the classic question comes up: <em>&#8220;Can God make a rock so big He can&#8217;t lift it?&#8221;, </em>you can confidently say: <em>Yes</em>. The physical body of Jesus certainly had limitations on how much it could lift. So yes, it is possible. If they demand you give an answer for God the Father, you can safely ignore the question. It is logically inconsistent. God is Spirit and as such is not subject to the laws of gravity. When God did take on a body, He was Jesus. Therefore your original answer stands. This answer is not logically impossible nor against God&#8217;s nature.</p>
<p>As Christians must be clear with ourselves: God will accomplish everything He sets out to do. Nothing that is <em>logically possible</em> is beyond His grasp. However, God will not act against <em>His loving nature</em> (and aren&#8217;t we glad He doesn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>I hope that explains what I learned from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7hpE4fOJ2k&amp;feature=related">MigKillerTwo&#8217;s video</a> and I pray it gives you the same small amount of insight I received.</p>
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		<title>Did Jesus Exist?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Ginorio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>For those of you who enjoy the &#8220;Christian World View&#8221;, this is one you won&#8217;t want to miss. Here Matt Coombe and Dr. Fernandes discuss information I&#8217;ve been waiting to hear for quite a while. Bert Ehrman is in view here and the dynamic apologetic duo offer a solid apologetic response to his near atheistic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>For those of you who enjoy the &#8220;Christian World View&#8221;, this is one you won&#8217;t want to miss. Here Matt Coombe and Dr. Fernandes discuss information I&#8217;ve been waiting to hear for quite a while. Bert Ehrman is in view here and the dynamic apologetic duo offer a solid apologetic response to his near atheistic hyper-skepticism. The scriptures of God are defended against those who would bring their accuracy into doubt and the historicity of the Jesus of the Bible is given a solid base in fact. Listen, enjoy, learn.</p>
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		<title>The Curious Case of Val Thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Ginorio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>Just thought I&#8217;d recommend a video on YouTube. It&#8217;s an Associated Press news story a 59 year old West Virginia woman named Val Thomas. She was home alone when a heart attack suddenly struck. By the time her son arrived, She was almost dead. He immediately called the paramedics. Once at the hospital, the doctors, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Just thought I&#8217;d recommend a video on YouTube. It&#8217;s an Associated Press news story a 59 year old West Virginia woman named Val Thomas. She was home alone when a heart attack suddenly struck. By the time her son arrived, She was almost dead. He immediately called the paramedics.</p>
<p>Once at the hospital, the doctors, in an attempt to preserve her brain and nerves, put her on a machine to cool her body temperature. In the process, her heart stopped two more times. The doctor informed the family her chances of survival were very low &#8230; only 10 percent.  The family prayed.</p>
<p>Finally, the family agreed to pull the plug. Her brainwaves flat-lined, the family decided it was time to let Val go in peace and meet her savior: Jesus Christ. It took some time to arrange for organ donation paperwork, so, to preserve the organs, Val was left on the ventilator for nearly 17 hours.</p>
<p>So, as the doctors prepared for organ harvest, the nurses removed the ventilator tube. Suddenly, Val Thomas awoke, scaring the nurse half to death. Seems Mrs. Thomas wasn&#8217;t quite ready to die. The nurse apologised to her, and Val simply said, &#8220;&#8230; that&#8217;s okay, honey &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>Both her and her kids attribute this miracle to Jesus Christ their savior. It&#8217;s quite a site to see.</p>
<p>Here is <a title="YouTube video from the AP." href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbaiC9N6bGU&amp;feature=fvw">a link to the AP story on Youtube</a>.</p>
<p>Here is a link to a <a title="YouTube radio interview of son." href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qxQGm_kxPA">video of a local radio station interviewing Val Thomas&#8217;s  son</a>.</p>
<p>Hope this encourages you to never give up praying. There is power in prayer.</p>
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